Timeline and other interesting tidbits in Hyrule Encyclopedia - Zelda Universe Forums (2024)

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It's got a lot of nice concept art that wasn't in Hyrule Historia. I bought the thing more because it was an art book than a theory manual.

Pretty much this.

Besides, I just don't have the willpower to resist that sweet, sweet merchandise.

Quote from Octorocker

Pretty much this.

Besides, I just don't have the willpower to resist that sweet, sweet merchandise.

I'll probably get a used one. Don't wanna add to the sales number but I do want it for the art and so I can tear it to shreds (figuratively) with my knowledge -- disprove that darn book for the sham it is.

There are a handful of good ideas (the maps, being one) but the dubious canonicity coupled with the bad ideas taints the whole thing.

I'm going to pretend it's an art book.

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I'm going to pretend it's an art book.

This.

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There are a handful of good ideas (the maps, being one) but the dubious canonicity coupled with the bad ideas taints the whole thing.

I'm going to pretend it's an art book.

Is the OP the majority of what's in it, or does anyone have a rundown of all that the book says? Because, now I'm kinda curious as what's all in it.

@Linkle

"Picture 1: the Dark Temple in Kakariko Village's graveyard. In the past, the Seeker (Sheikah), under the King's orders, it was the location where they assassinated and tortured enemies who targeted the Royal Family or rebels, and it is a symbol of Hyrule's blood-stained dark history. This temple is an unpleasant memory for the Royal Family and such speaking about it is a taboo for them."

They haven't changed anything, really. Just confirm (or assume) what's been debated many times over the years, what its purpose was.

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@Linkle

"Picture 1: the Dark Temple in Kakariko Village's graveyard. In the past, the Seeker (Sheikah), under the King's orders, it was the location where they assassinated and tortured enemies who targeted the Royal Family or rebels, and it is a symbol of Hyrule's blood-stained dark history. This temple is an unpleasant memory for the Royal Family and such speaking about it is a taboo for them."

They haven't changed anything, really. Just confirm (or assume) what's been debated many times over the years, what its purpose was.

Yeah, I was afraid of that. Dunno if you ever read my theory but... yeah, to heck with this book. They have officially crossed the line that I can't forgive. My heart has been broken into a million pieces.

Anyway, thanks a lot, buddy. I appreciate it.

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Yeah, I was afraid of that. Dunno if you ever read my theory but... yeah, to heck with this book. They have officially crossed the line that I can't forgive. My heart has been broken into a million pieces.
Anyway, thanks a lot, buddy. I appreciate it.

Crossed a line you can't forgive for something that the original game makes pretty obvious from the get go? The Shadow Temple is filled with torture chambers there's numerous guillotines which are, well, use to BEHEAD people. Yes it was used to assassinate enemies of the state and torture them.

I mean, theories are nice and all, but this is hardly a huge theory by any stretch of the imagination. OOT's pretty clear on what the intent of the Shadow Temple was for.

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Crossed a line you can't forgive for something that the original game makes pretty obvious from the get go? The Shadow Temple is filled with torture chambers there's numerous guillotines which are, well, use to BEHEAD people. Yes it was used to assassinate enemies of the state and torture them.

I mean, theories are nice and all, but this is hardly a huge theory by any stretch of the imagination. OOT's pretty clear on what the intent of the Shadow Temple was for.

I'm not disputing that, pal. You should go read my theory if you want to know why I said what I said. And no, the original game makes no such assertion. That's something fans made up. The real evidence stacks up against that theory about it belonging to or bring associated with the Royal Family. The only tie you could claim was the Triforce symbol and "Zelda's Lullaby" prompt, but even that could be EASILY disputed as "evidence". Which is exactly what I did.

No offense, but that theory has always been nonsense in my eyes and I'll not listen a bit to it. Not when I spent years finding the "truth" and finally did. It's not only boring but it just...

Err, never mind, this thread isn't for that and I don't feel like getting into this discussion.

Has anyone gotten the English version yet?
I Got to peruse it at my local comicbook/gaming store recently.

I'm still bewildered by the insistance that the Link in OoX is the same person as in ALttP.
Simply put, if they are the same person, why doesn't he already know Zelda when you meet her in OoX?
Also, if they are all the same person, then why bother making that tweak to the timeline?

That random map of Hyrule in the beginning is interesting too.

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I was flipping through it the other day, and there's a part in the timeline section that seems to imply that Zelda sent both herself and Link back in time at the end of OoT, which... is just not correct. Perhaps I misread it, but it bothered me nonetheless.

That's... odd. Though technically, we wouldn't know if she did, right? She doesn't appear in the party at Lon Lon Ranch, and we barely see any of her interactions with Link after he goes back.

She had to be around somewhere, the royal line couldn’t exist otherwise.

What is the wording that implies this?

@Zesty Crouton So I'm looking at my version right now, is the section you're referring to the section on page 11 under "History of Hyrule?"

Quote from Hyrule Encyclopedia

Return of the Hero: Princess Zelda and the rest of the Seven Sages seal away Ganondorf and the Triforce of Power. Link, having returned to his original time along with Princess Zelda, stops Ganondorf's ambitions before they can take shape. At this time, Link possesses the Triforce of Courage.

If this is what you're referring to, then I think it's just a grammatical error as there should be another comma after the word "time" to imply that only Link returned to his original time and that along with child era Zelda they stopped child era Ganondorf.

The book while cool has some editing issues.

Also, random tangent, but upon thinking about it the change to OOX being a different Link is a bad thing. ALttP when it got rereleased on the GBA changed some of the sprites to reference OOX, namely changing the Witch's apprentice to be Maple from OOX. It makes Zero sense for OOX to then be it's own story disconnected from ALttP when you have Maple just hanging around in Hyrule during ALttP. Even more so when you consider that the Lorule version of the Witch in ALBW is called "Mapes," which seems to imply that the witch in ALBW is Maple.

Aha, finally, more evidence supporting the og layout of the timeline! Brilliant.

Much as I would love to get Arts and Artifacts and the Encyclopedia to complete the trilogy, just no. The timeline differences in HE are still mostly crap. Some make sense, others absolutely do not.

I'm certain our resident historian would agree